Why birds can fly over Mount Everest (2020)

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134 points by andsoitis 5 days ago


danolivo - 13 minutes ago

Yeah, nice article that makes me think the civilisation that wants to survive longer should rely on more fundamental energy sources, like solar radiation, rather than byproducts of evolution.

antics - 8 hours ago

Written by Walter Murch?? Like, the guy who is considered maybe the best editor and sound designer of all time, who was nominated for 9 Academy Awards, and won 3??? (Editing perhaps second only to Thelma Schoonmaker.)

js2 - 8 hours ago

(2020). Previous submissions with comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23639294 (Jun 26, 2020 - 96 comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28844872 (Oct 12, 2021 - 108 comments)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34210508 (Jan 1, 2023 - 6 comments)

This submission is from 4 days ago, so it must've been placed into the second chance pool.

adonovan - 8 hours ago

The part about coal coming from dead trees during a window of time before bacteria evolved lignin digestion is no longer the scientific consensus. Such bacteria existed earlier; not all coal is high lignin; and coal still formed later. Too bad; it was a lovely story!

zkmon - 18 minutes ago

And now I know why a variety of coal is called "Lignite". And why dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals were so big.

What an amazing story. It's been a while since I read something so interesting.

Ultimately, all energy on earth comes from the Sun, stored in the bonds between atoms or molecules. Plants are battery-manufacturing machines that create these bonds inside the organic compounds. Animals do the opposite - break the bonds to release the energy stored by trees. Animals also store energy within their own organic compounds such as fats and muscles and thus become part of the food pyramid.

ordu - 5 hours ago

> The difficult thing is that most old folks grew up thinking that oil, coal, and gas were great, and it is hard to teach old dogs new tricks.

Doesn't seem cynical enough to me. Some people make money on oil, coal, and gas, and it doesn't matter what they believe about the climate, they would do anything to continue enriching themselves. It is even worse, really, because they are not just some individuals, it is a big network of organizations. And some states too have their GDP dependent on a fossil fuel trade. You can probably talk a capitalist into surrendering their money-making practices, if they are damaging the Earth, but you can't convince an organization to dissolve or a state to go into a deep recession.

saimiam - 6 hours ago

The hero image is titled Murch_HERO. Big publishers get lazy with their titling too!

jibalt - 5 hours ago

Too much teleology.

shmerl - 9 hours ago

I was surprised that some birds can fly even higher. There is a record of Rüppell's vulture at 11+ kilometers altitude.

Katharina01 - 5 days ago

Interesting article and thank you a lot for this education!

dreamcompiler - 3 hours ago

> at 43 percent a lightning strike will cause the entire atmosphere to ignite since it is so high in flammable oxygen

Good article except oxygen is not flammable. Oxygen is the stuff that makes other stuff flammable.

randomImmigrant - 7 hours ago

A beautiful article. Thanks for sharing!

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