The tilde in your PATH may not be your HOME

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90 points by arusekk 4 hours ago


amarshall - 2 hours ago

Or you can just…not quote the tilde. Folks always seem to reflexively quote “strings” in Bash while not realizing that (almost) everything is a string and most strings are not quoted and it would be odd to do it (e.g. no one is doing `"ls" "-a" "foo"`).

SoftTalker - 29 minutes ago

I never use tilde in scripts, only as a convenience when typing commands interactively.

$HOME otherwise, which still has gotchas but they are the same as any other environment variable.

alexpotato - 43 minutes ago

Not necessarily about tildes but about some of the craziness that can happen with bash at large orgs:

At a past job, I was trying to figure out what part of my basrhc was setting a particular environment variable. I assumed that it must be some kind of default installed in my user profile and/or inheriting from /etc/<something>.

I realized pretty quickly that my bashrc was importing some other files. Again, the assumption was that this would be one file deep in the import.

It turned out there were 10+ layers of import starting from an "ur-bashrc" and then layer upon layer of more and more imports to finally get to a user level profile.

It was so convoluted that I was going nuts until I found this Stack Exchange post: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/813/how-to-determin...

It turns on "tracing" for bash imports so that you can then narrow down on where the env variable is getting set.

FeepingCreature - 2 hours ago

Kind of seems like you should have noticed this by your ~/.local/bin PATH not working?

the__alchemist - an hour ago

I wish Linux distros would ship a "Terminal"/"CLI" program etc that is decoupled from the scripting language. Have a universal Path env var that isn't tied to a specific shell. Lets you execute cd commands, launch python/git/cargo/arbitrary applications etc, and have a good bookmark + autocomplete system. It feels like the conflation of scripting language + CLI application is the root of these complications and subtleties.

If you are using shell scripting (And prefer Bash etc over Python), you would keep using Bash/Fish/Zsh etc. If you are using the CLI to launch applications that don't have a GUI, navigate directories and perform file system operations, then you would use the plain terminal.

ligarota - 21 minutes ago

Juste create a file ~ which is a symlink to home :)

Big brain time here

dspillett - an hour ago

I was going to say “it always seems to work for me” then I saw “… actually works in Bash and Zsh, because …”.

Another Bash-ism I need to be careful not to use when trying to be portable.

It is worth noting that on a lot of systems /bin/sh isn't bash (or zsh) so if you want to rely on Bashisms (or just can't be bothered looking for them) be specific and use “#!/bin/bash” for you hashbang. On Debian and similar it is usually dash for instance.

quotemstr - 16 minutes ago

I was expecting this article to be about skew between HOME environment variable and getpwent(3) (usually from /etc/passed) views of the home directory.

They can be different things. Suppose your user is foobar, ordinarily homed at /home/foobar. You can write HOME=/tmp/my-test-home. Then, ~/qux will become/tmp/my-test-home instead of the usual /home/foobar/qux. That's because bash and zsh use HOME to resolve ~.

Almost. If you write ~foobar/qux, you get /home/foobar/qux again because the ~-with-username syntax looks up the getpwent home directory not the environment one.

And of course language runtimes are all schizo about whether the "user home directory" API uses HOME or the getpwent database or whatever to determine the home directory.

It's a mess, TBH. It used to be useful to temporarily bind HOME to something else to do things like create isolated test environments. Now, because of the aforementioned schizo sprinkler of randomness in the environment, you're going to have a bad time if you don't keep HOME synced to getpwent home directory.

duncangh - 2 hours ago

I should have read the docs before getting ~/ tattooed on my wrist.

very_good_man - 2 hours ago

Reminds me of early days of Cursor when it decided it would be a good idea to create a directory named "~" in my repo root!

That was a scary mistake to unwind!

IshKebab - 3 hours ago

Bash footgun #238503.

gjvc - 2 hours ago

bad example in the article:

  export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin/"
better:

  export PATH="$HOME/.local/bin/:$PATH"
hnd9q09qk4 - 3 hours ago

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ska1296 - an hour ago

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mr_mitm - 2 hours ago

So many headaches could be avoided if we only allowed `[A-Za-z0-9._-]` in paths. (Arguably, even `-` can be problematic.) Encoding issues, expansion, parameter separation, ... and I never saw a convincing case in favor of supporting anything else.