Two American Airlines Flights End Up with the Same Flight Numbers

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42 points by samch 3 hours ago


kayson - 2 hours ago

It's even worse than just the same flight number. Both were at PHX, one landing, one taking off at the same time. Kudos to a clever ATC for preventing what could've been a catastrophe: https://youtu.be/93lLXNsWp9Q

amelius - an hour ago

Falsehoods airlines believe about flight numbers.

BJones12 - an hour ago

> American assigns the same flight number to the outbound and return services, with the same aircraft typically operating both legs.

So they could just not do that.

gausswho - 2 hours ago

I'd like to hear more from someone in the industry about the resolution to this problem. As I understand it, we're trading a small non-zero risk of mistaken identity for the streamlined communication of using four digits rather than five (which carries its own non-zero benefit to safety). This has become a problem because airline consolidation means some of them operate so many flights per day that their limited pool of numbers dictate that they reuse them for either direction.

Could we resolve this by swapping one number for a letter? 26 options instead of 10 raises the pool substantially. Letters A-J indicate inbound, K-Z outbound? Or westbound/eastbound.

dmazzoni - 2 hours ago

(This is from August 19, it was widely reported at the time.)

samch - 3 hours ago

Two planes, the same airport, crossing paths.

stackghost - 2 hours ago

Root cause:

> American assigns the same flight number to the outbound and return services, with the same aircraft typically operating both legs.

Other airlines don’t do this, and instead assign a different flight number to the return flight.

amelius - an hour ago

"Hey ChatGPT, could you find me a suitable number for this flight?"

ranger_danger - 2 hours ago

What amazes me is that their software has never been updated to support flight numbers longer than 4 digits.