Previewing the Model Hardware Standard

anthropic.com

82 points by surprisetalk 8 hours ago


sinab - 4 hours ago

The standard makes sense: models work much better when devices expose standardized, machine-readable interfaces.

But as far as I can tell, this technical "standard" isn't actually public yet (you have to apply for access to even see or implement it.) Anthropic says they plan to open source it later.

Quite a departure from the way foundational hardware standards like USB and CAN were developed. You shouldn't need permission to read a standard.

mips_avatar - 7 hours ago

As far as I can tell is these standards (MCP/MHS/etc) are just semi obvious tool inferfaces that Anthropic uses as training scenarios.

jauntywundrkind - 6 hours ago

MCP was a bucket of Not Invented Here nonsense, that ignored years of protocol design. It was incredibly jank and hard to run at any scale, for years and years.

They finally looked at how other protocols do things, and made something that behaves in recent versions. But it's hard as heck to take this company at all seriously. The don't really care about ecosystems (AGENTS.md), they don't seem to know think or care much about protocols until they have to (MCP's incredibly long redemption ark). The vibes are all off.

Maybe they avoid laying their own pitfalls this time. Maybe it's better. It'd be nice to start seeing some kind of cause to trust this company as vaguely capable computer-using people. But so far that hasn't been the case.

dgellow - 7 hours ago

It’s actually really cool, and not just for AI. That should make it easy to automate some processes with simple scripts.

Nitpick: it’s annoying that they add Model to those acronyms, for what seems like a fairly universal software interface

Animats - 6 hours ago

How does this compare to ROS 2? Roughly the same goals.

foltik - 16 minutes ago

Cool story Dario, call me when Claude supports AGENTS.md.

automationwiz - 7 hours ago

Sounds like PyLabRobot:

https://docs.pylabrobot.org/stable/

shay_ker - 4 hours ago

How is this different from tool calls? Or rather, MCP?

randomblock1 - 5 hours ago

To me, this seems like OPC UA / SiLA but instead of being software <-> machine semantics/control it's AI <-> machine semantics/control. Or in simpler terms, an AI-facing hardware abstraction / device-description standard.

This is how I understand it:

Agent <-> MCP/CLI/code <-> MHS <-> vendor API/SCPI/OPC UA/ROS/etc <-> CAN/Modbus/USB/etc <-> hardware

MHS can describe capabilites, metadata, safety limits, as well as provide read/write control and discovery. Things like "can measure temperature", "arm weighs X kg", "never exceed X RPM", that agents can easily understand. (as opposed to that being buried in a datasheet somewhere, or having to be included in the prompt)

Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPC_Unified_Architecture, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization_in_Lab_Automat..., https://xkcd.com/927/

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builddifferenti - 5 hours ago

Hardware-speech synthesis breakdown and decline

jedbrooke - 7 hours ago

https://xkcd.com/927/

To actually add something to the discussion though: I guess getting LLMs to control robots is cool, but would potentially have more severe consequences than pure software since it interacts more with the physical world

tolugenius - 8 hours ago

I don't want to be that guy but did they invent bluetooth for ai? Like what is MHS actually? I read it twice and still don't get it

tantalor - 5 hours ago

"standard" is doing a lot of work here

dude250711 - 5 hours ago

Are they in a position to define any kind of standards?

bigcat12345678 - 5 hours ago

So far Anthropic shows remarkable taste in research, engineering, and product. Dario the ideologist attracts the most pure-minded talent in the industry. It indeed looks like Anthropic would be unchallenged for the foreseeable future. It'll be very interesting to see its downfall in 5-20 years.