Better and Cheaper Than IPTV
github.com340 points by xonery 2 days ago
340 points by xonery 2 days ago
For a no hacks alternative, I built TV Explorer. It puts the channel's published HLS stream into your browser with no interim steps. Uses the public GitHub list of more than 10,000 free channels.
That is an unbelievably slick thing that you've got there.
It feels very light-weight, it's approximately instantly-responsive. Back button works. I don't understand the stats (or my contribution to them), but whatever.
(the closed-captioning pop-up causes some overlay issues for me, though)
moar edit: Upon further review with my very not-special desktop box, I'm reasonably confident that this is the quickest, most-responsive "TV-watching" experience I've had since analog NTSC left the scene ~eons ago. It's fast like switching from channel 11 to channel 13 used to be with the very quickest and most well-behaved of tuners.
What aren't you doing that everyone else is doing?
Thank you so much! What a nice thing to hear.
The short version is that it uses my own engine, called Watson. I used to work for a small game studio inside a big company and my specialty was tooling. I had built my own before I started there and when they shutdown, it evolved into Watson[0].
It's lightweight because it's a static site with no server, it has no spying code or SDKs, and it puts the broadcasters HLS stream URL directly into a <video> element in your browser with minimal intervention.
> Back button works
Maybe a little too well... I tried a whole bunch of channels to get an idea of which ones work, and my history was too full to get out of the site. Maybe every channel change doesn't need to push to your history list.
Tangentially, I wonder why browsers can't store more than N history items... even from the same session.
Generally filling up the buffer is fine. It's perfectly normal that after viewing a certain number of documents one has to manually decide where to go.
You know what you need. A button that goes back but instead of going to the prior document goes to the first document with a different domain than the current one.
Yeah, I'm not convinced it's really the site's fault... I can understand the logic of wanting the back button to go back a channel, but also I generally want to go "out" of a page when I hit the back button, so there's no real one-size-fits-all answer.
But speaking only for myself, if history.pushState was removed from my browser I would probably be happier in the end. JavaScript SPA's abuse it 10x more often than they use it appropriately, I'd rather that if you're an SPA anyway, you implement your own in-app navigation and let my browser's mean "get me out of this app". Lord knows SPA's already reinvent every other web standard, why not one more...
I want a back button and a button to the left with a double arrow back like Rewind and for the browser to maintain both a buffer of prior pages and one at least as long of prior root sites with right-click showing this list
> What aren't you doing that everyone else is doing?
Seems to be the fact that there's no advertising, tracking or other SDKs and the entire JS is contained in two files.
Looks potentially very nice but the majority of the channels I tried were "blocked in my area or not broadcasting"
Thanks for the feedback and I'm sorry that happened. Because the data comes from a public GitHub list of channels, the app has no way to know what will be geoblocked for you (or not) or actually online at the moment (or not) until you try to tune it -- very much like an old analog TV.
But... TV Explorer does keep track of what's tunable (with status lights down the left column) and also lets you scan in the background to find the ones that are live for you right now.
Magnificent thing you made, and the scanning is awesome. My problem is that it seems that I can't put more than one filter of the same type on i.e. (Spanish AND English), and if I switch between languages within the filter, the scan is reset.
Thank you so much for that!
It does only allow filtering by one language at a time, but you can build your hotbar of the stations you like that you find across any filters.
The scan works on the displayed results. If you change the filter, it starts with the new list -- but all the results are saved regardless.
Hope that makes it a bit bitter!
In case anyone else runs into this: the Stats section was not shown for me by default and I had to enable it in Settings.
Really great site though!
Quick suggestion: let us resize the channel browser when it's horizontal, and perhaps allow collapsing it altogether
Thanks so much for the compliment!
When your window is wide enough (on desktop), you should be able to drag the split point between the TV display and the channel list.
I think https://tv.garden/ has more channels than your especially if i look at Japan
Seems to depend on the country, tv.garden has nothing in Namibia, for example
This is incredible! It loaded so fast on my mobile and I’m able to watch channels from all over. Amazing stuff man. It requires a thread of its own
very cool. How would have this on actual TV? Load it in the built in browser?
You can cast from a Chrome browser to an Android TV or Chromecast device:
https://tvexplorer.live/help/ways-to-watch
and...
This situation where bots have to run a headless browser in a new profile is just stupid. Can we have the old internet back? Please? Cloudflare you're not stopping bots, you're just wasting effort on both sides while siphoning access logs and passwords to the NSA.
> I built it because I couldn't cast web video from my laptop to my TV: no Chromecast, no AirPlay.
Looks like Claude built it.
Claude helped me out for sure, i'm not a DLNA or FFMPEG beast, but i solved a problem I had and that's what matters. If it solved a problem you have, even better.
Yeah don't listen to HN dorks. Unless youve handwritten the code using Mayan virgin blood on papyrus scrolls they will complain.
Dude didn't even harvest the quill himself. Back in my day you had to track a bird for hours just praying they'd drop a feather so you didn't have to actually catch the thing. Of course, the Smith family had a bow, so you'd maybe borrow a bow but then you were praying you didn't lose or break the arrow because then you're out the labor for the quill you didn't get AND the arrow!
"Helped me build" usually means it was vibe coded AI slop.
I'm pretty sure it was built by a compiler, using libraries provided by Google and others. Until Claude can directly output machine code packaged for distribution, it's just another middleman between the source of intent (the human) and the final deliverable.
</sarcasm, mostly>
I thought the whole point of turnstile was that it detects headless browsers and it's supposed to be "difficult" to bypass. Apparently this just simulates clicking on the checkmark. Is it really that easy?
The point of Turnstile is to sell a warm fuzzy feeling of security to website owners, block Tor users who don't enable JavaScript, and convince website owners to give a copy of all their traffic to the NSA for free.
Actual security is barely relevant except to the extent that if it doesn't add any security, the NSA might get worried that people will stop using Cloudflare.
Fake security - number of blocked users, which Cloudflare calls "bots" regardless of whether they're people or bots - is used in Cloudflare marketing.
With the right simulated events, a headless browser becomes indistinguishable from a real browser without platform detection. It's not hard to figure out that these headless browsers are running a software renderer on Linux. In time, they're just going to have to detect Linux users and force them to fill out one or multiple challenges if workarounds like these keep getting used.
The checkbox is just a small part of what the checks are doing. It's monitoring everything the browser is doing and how the browser is responding to certain events up until you tick the checkbox, at which point it determines if you need one of those "are you human" challenges or if you can pass without interruption, based on how bot-like you are.
> was that it detects headless browsers
> Apparently this just simulates clicking on the checkmark
Not just that. It also spoofs a bunch of browser stuff.
A standard headless browser will probably get flagged.
People have been automating WoW for a generation using things like peripherals duct taped to oscillating fans despite multi-million dollar budgets designed to defeat things far more sophisticated than this.
I would think of headless browser automation in exactly the same way you would about cheating in FPS video games. The red team always has the initiative and can win if they want to spend enough time and money.
Usually piracy software tries to maintain a little plausible deniability, but here this is suggesting it will help you stream this weekend's newly released $250m blockbuster.
I suppose it searches your configured sources for that movie and comes back "not found"
Stremio does this. Stremio is a legal application that finds media from any configured plugin. You're supposed to add the illegal Torrentio plugin to automatically pirate media. By doing it this way, most development can take place in public.
A similar situation exists with the emulator Azahar and the illegal fork Azahar Plus which can automatically decrypt games.
Edit: lolno this project just has pirate sites built into it
I’m not against piracy but the initial pitch made it seem like it’s more purely for trying to cast streams embedded in websites that you already are visiting and/or have access to, of which do not “allow” you to cast, or for whatever reason only work on a laptop and not on something like AirPlay. But the LLM-slop description of “random websites” in addition to the option for a TVDB API key confuse me as to what the actual focus is here.
It could just be streaming the trailer.
Main use case
I mean I get it, but also it's funny that you commented this 5 minutes after you edited the readme[1] to add in the exact type of plausible deniability I remarked was absent.
[1] - https://github.com/stupside/castor/commit/847abd1ad0dbe893fc...
Seems to be missing some context. What is this used for? Piracy?
It's a CLI that lets you select a movie, finds a matching stream from streaming websites, transcodes it, burns in subtitles in real time, and tells your TV to play it.
Do I need to bring my own sources or is there a maintained list?
it comes preconfigured with three different illegal pirate sites.
Looks like they removed now, and changed some language in Readme: https://github.com/stupside/castor/commit/692b2f18b8f6e99c32...
I am not sure how this would help with piracy? It can only play a stream you already have access to, it doesn’t break encryption or anything.
The default config has a bunch of such sources: https://github.com/stupside/castor/blob/main/config.yaml
sources: - proxies: - "https://vidsrc-embed.ru" templates: movie: "/embed/movie/{itemID}" episode: "/embed/tv/{itemID}/{season}-{episode}"
- proxies:
- "https://1embed.cc"
- "https://www.vidking.net"
templates:
movie: "/embed/movie/{itemID}"
episode: "/embed/tv/{itemID}/{season}/{episode}"
- proxies:
- "https://www.rivestream.app"
templates:
movie: "/embed/torrent?type=movie&id={itemID}"
episode: "/embed/torrent?type=tv&id={itemID}&season={season}&episode={episode}"
- proxies:
- "https://www.rivestream.app"
templates:
movie: "/embed?type=movie&id={itemID}"
episode: "/embed?type=tv&id={itemID}&season={season}&episode={episode}"It's an alternative way to cast media to your TV by way of somehow ripping the streaming video off said website or service.
Immediately worked for me on a simple Samsung bought 15+ years ago.
What's the best way to use it, write your own search to parse all the json pages https://vsembed.ru/movies/latest/page-1.json ?
It's about as much effort as a torrent, so I don't see the point.
Docker version on MacOS might not find your TV.
>Castor launches headless Chrome with a randomized fingerprint and stealth scripts to hide automation.
you lost me in there.
Can this be used without a TV, lets say if I just want to play the streams with VLC?
Can you cast to a Roku device with this?
This is interesting, instead of a command line interface it made me wonder what an interface right on the tv could look like.
Comparisons to watching tv, are usually a TV interface, with a TV device/app, be it an Android TV/Apple TV, etc.
Maybe I'm missing it, I couldn't see a tv interface.
The part where it can send video to any kind of tv is a pretty remarkable piece.
It's also remarkably "old" in a digital sense:
Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA) is a set of interoperability standards for sharing home digital media among multimedia devices. Introduced 2004; 22 years ago.
Google Cast is a proprietary protocol developed by Google for playing locally stored or Internet-streamed audiovisual content on a compatible consumer device. The protocol is used to initiate and control playback of content on digital media players, high-definition televisions, and home audio systems using a mobile device, personal computer, or smart speaker. The protocol was first launched on July 24, 2013; 12 years ago.
- very stupid comment: i still have no idea what this project does even after reading the README
- can someone kindly explain what is the actual problem statement and what the author is trying to solve here?
We're just throwing straight up piracy on HN now? We're vibing piracy now? Felonies via API?