Show HN: TownSquare, a tiny presence layer for websites
townsquare.cauenapier.com92 points by cauenapier 16 hours ago
92 points by cauenapier 16 hours ago
https://cauenapier.com/blog/townsquare_release/
https://cauenapier.com/blog/townsquare/
Moderation moderation moderation . It’s a big problem I have similar moderation concerns in my browser game/engine but I only ban offensive slurs not swears, but I give no visual affordance that the word is not allowed The only surface where players see the input content is in a share card, and if they finish a game and get to the share card they will find the offensive word has been REDACTED lol So it’s a long feedback loop just to find out your hijinks lead nowhere I made something similar last year: A p2p chat popup (that sits on bottom right of the page as a bubble) that allows all visitors to chat with each other. It had simple keyword based moderation in-built (can be easily bypassed though). Was planning to add github oauth to get a known identity and persistent messaging so visitors can chat with each other across sites. Instead of a webmaster adding script to their site, it was a browser extension. The intent was two folds: 1. Get to know other people having similar interests, 2. Try something on the lines of a decentralized chat/messaging system. I just took a look at the page's own 'town square'. At the moment, it's largely full of people saying offensive things for the sake of it. Love the idea. Could use some filters and stale (sleeping) clients could get removed quicker. Also, it seemed to be disconnecting quite often, maybe a hug of death thing. this is a very clever concept. I'll keep it in mind for the future - when my app site has persistent amount of visitors. Are there some rules/settings for stop words to prevent some types of abuse? Or is it planned? This is great! Thank you for sharing it. Fun to use and already customizable. There was a thing from the 90s kind of like this called Third Voice. It was a cool idea, but I remember there being a lot of backlash from brands. I've always wondered if we could find a way to add content website's content without it turning into a shitshow. MLS listings / Zillow is an interesting use-case. A realtor might describe something as "sun-filled" but omit that the home is next to a 24/7 dump truck repair warehouse. I love the idea! The next step is to add role play games in town squares. I was thinking the same thing, or even just little minigames and Easter eggs for people to find. Neat idea! It's simple but very effective - and I really enjoy the detail of the benches and the tree. Very nice. I wouldn't add it to any of my sites due to the unmoderated nature of it - seeing some fairly unsavory things in your demo - but that's just a little tweak, I'm sure! openai has a free moderation endpoint. no reason to not use it. edit: downvoters either know something I don't about its unsuitability, or have outdated info on it and think it's against terms to use it for reasons unrelated to GPT. it's not against terms. If your website attracts such elements perhaps there's a reason? The demo is attracting the HN crowd and it’s getting… well, let’s just say this crowd is about as good as it gets online. I've been playing with presence too...! I def am thinking about using it more for real-time motion communication (which is largely missing from web) rather than text (which is very overrepresented, and where most moderation comes in). I was toying with the idea of making a little crowd representation sticky at the bottom, like watching a screen together :) Regardless, I love concepts like this. Thanks! Really cool but should limit # of people shown when there are too many. Currently it gets really laggy interesting. i'm appearing as a grey guy not the orange guy like your blog says > NOTE: This project has been mostly vibe-coded I deeply appreciate the honesty here. I’ll pass based on the vibecodedness of it but perhaps it won’t be a dealbreaker for others. Is it the philosophical reason you refuse to engage or is it because you don’t trust the security of this project? Easy come, easy go. I find most vibe coded projects are abandonware. Also, in this context, security. This is amazing! Congratulations on the launch. Repository link somewhere? Oh what the heck? That's super cool! Awesome idea. Possible future enhancement: some basic day/night (or even weather?) design elements that match the timezone of the person whose site it is? Still, doesn't even need it, it's really cool as-is! I could see it being used as some avenue for saying toxic stuff, so I'm suddenly feeling like the only allowed actions should be ones that can never be harmful (like text interactions are just choosing from a pre-set list).. Nintendo does this on Mario Kart, just allowing text from a pre-set list. It's very limited, but works. haha nice project! I stayed there for a couple of minutes and had such a good time! First saw this on lobste.rs . Great idea, perhaps allow for a little customisation? I'd like minimal animation, just a counter of present people and a green dot that vibrates when someone is typing. Clicking either opens a chat box with last 20 minutes.
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