Tell HN: An app is silently installing itself on my iPhone every day

113 points by _-x-_ 5 hours ago


Every day for the past 3 days around 1pm EST the 'Headspace' app has been silently appearing on my iPhone (13 Pro). Automatic downloads are turned off and I've updated to the latest iOS since this started happening.

I googled around and found a couple reddit threads with people reporting the exact same thing starting 2 or 3 days ago. There were reports from people on iPhone 12 and iPhone 17 so it doesn't seem device-specific.

Anyone else seeing this? Does anyone understand how or why this is happening?

_-x-_ - 3 hours ago

Here's a Reddit thread of other people experiencing the same issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1su82sc/headspace_app_...

aaronbrethorst - an hour ago

I wonder if U2, or Bono, has taken a significant stake in Headspace recently (kidding).

dagmx - 7 minutes ago

I’m curious if everyone experiencing this is on 26.4.2? It came out 4 days ago according to Wikipedia…it would make sense that it lines up with when people are seeing it start.

I’m on the 26.5 beta and not seeing it at all.

yokuze - 2 hours ago

Do you have Settings > Apps > App Store > (Automatic Downloads) App Downloads turned on?

I noticed apps appearing on my Home Screen I’d never heard of before. Turns out with that setting and Family Purchase sharing turned on, every time my wife installed a new app, it installed on my phone too.

That may not be your exact scenario, but I wonder if turning off that Automatic App Downloads setting (if enabled) changes anything. Could give you a clue, if so.

ddxv - 22 minutes ago

If anyone wants to browse some of the SDKs in headspace:

https://appgoblin.info/apps/493145008/sdks

I see normal development and tracking SDKs. If anyone sees something interesting let me know.

1659447091 - an hour ago

Do you use iCloud drive?

This might be a stretch as I am taking a guess at the implementation, but apps can sync with iCloud Drive and I keep getting app folders showing up after telling it not sync but the prefs reset after certain states(not quite sure when/how)-- it then creates a new sync folder when interacting with the app again. (after having turned off sync and deleting the folder -- once it resets)

I am wondering if that app had that feature (icloud drive syncing) and something of the reverse is happening. Where you have a document still on icloud drive from when you installed the app. Maybe there is some action or state change going on after interacting with drive on a mac or something similar. And now it's created the right circumstances for icloud drive to try and sync the file but there is no app on any device so it downloads the app instead since it's missing and there is some dangling file looking for its home.

COFyumo - 2 hours ago

I have the same exact thing happening. I deleted the app a few days ago when was surprised to see it in my app list.

I had previously downloaded the app but and removed it because I never used it. A few days ago I noticed the app when browsing through my app list and thought maybe I didnt delete it properly, so I made sure to delete it. Then this morning my iPhone updated software versions and I found he Headpsace app again on my home, except this time it was grayed out and waiting for me to go on wifi to download.

I just deleted it again but am equally dumbfounded

altairprime - an hour ago

The iOS reviews for the app also confirm this story affecting others.

janstice - 4 hours ago

Is your phone connected to some work mobile device management? I could imagine someone has a jinxed Jamf or intune rule that is pushing things out.

a34729t - 2 hours ago

I would call Apple support; you might even get an engineer call you back. I am sure they would love to know what the hell is going on.

k310 - 4 hours ago

Did you ever install it, or Ginger?

An app store search also turned up "Headspace Care" (Ginger)

Ginger is now Headspace Care

It would be beyond malware for an app to install itself, since there's that app store hurdle to leap. (IMO)

bastawhiz - an hour ago

Do you have MDM enabled on your device? Does your company offer Headspace as a perk and some arcane set of sketchy business agreements led to auto install policy in your company's MDM solution?

nkotov - 26 minutes ago

Had this happen as well. I haven’t used Headspace in years. Randomly had the app appear on Home Screen.

con - 43 minutes ago

Just checked and it also installed itself on my phone. iPhone 17 Pro, non-US App Store, on latest iOS beta, no MDM. Sounds like an Apple Store bug to me.

DavideNL - an hour ago

@_-x-_: "Settings > App Store > Show Install Confirmations > On".

Maybe that helps?

rglover - 4 hours ago

If you've ever installed any companion app on your desktop macOS, your phone will try to sync apps (I think the same with Apple TV). Caught me off guard a few times.

NetOpWibby - 35 minutes ago

_Severance intensifies_

treexs - 2 hours ago

this is the plot of Persona 5

mandeepj - 4 hours ago

How did you find that? Any notification?

csomar - 19 minutes ago

> Does anyone understand how or why this is happening?

They are drowning in tech debt. Here are two main issues I have with my iPhone/iOS: I can't search for the telegram app. It doesn't show up. It shows fine on the iPad. Also just a few minutes ago, app search decided not to work. I usually use it to pull my Wallet to pull my card. It was an awkward moment as I had no idea where the wallet app actually is.

I have lost count of the minor polish issues. The experience has degraded so much that you no longer care.

psynixx - 5 hours ago

I’ve been getting this too, same app same behaviour… Anyone been able to figure out what is causing this?

meloyc - 2 hours ago

jailbreak phone?

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throwaway5465 - 4 hours ago

Maybe a competitor is trying to FUD them?

xinji-standard - 3 hours ago

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lovich - 2 hours ago

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