Judge orders restoration of Voice of America
apnews.com64 points by geox 3 hours ago
64 points by geox 3 hours ago
Simple enough, just reverse the arrow of time and unshatter that vase, restore allied trust, and un-DOGE all the clogged pipelines.
These kinds of victories really are thin gruel, aren't they?
It's almost but not quite:
"One more victory over Trump and we are completely done for!"
territory.
What’s with the page blocking Cloudflare popup? I can’t dismiss it on mobile.
I am reading the comments under the AP article and wondering how many of them are just bots yelling at each other.
Dead internet theory is creeping up on me.
I don’t see any comments at all, at least on mobile. Is this a bot?
I was going to look at the comments out of curiosity, because I was surprised that there would be any comments at all on an AP article, for several reasons.
I think that might be a "you" thing, there certainly are comments. And here's a link to APNews' comment guideline page, showing they have comment sections on lots of places in their website
https://apnews.com/community-guidelines
Unsure why you jump to "is this a bot" conclusion, seems a little odd.
Unsure why you jump to "is this a bot" conclusion, seems a little odd.
Seemed a little quick, but not odd. Most news comment sections are bots, I'd expext at least 10% of HN to be, etc.
As the US midterms arrive, I'd expect news comments sections to be 99.99% bots.
Here are a few I see:
Comment by burkej27. 41 MIN AGO No state run media!
Comment by Robertl. 55 MIN AGO Is there anything that Trump does that is legal and won’t be overturned? What a waste of 4 years. They should be held responsible to the 1000 people damaged by his actions. If he can’t then his cabinet.
Comment by Trumpisyourpresident. 1 HR AGO Just like NPR, it's the voice of liberal America, not America, so it should not be funded.
Comment by KendallGrubb. 1 HR AGO We’re not in the 1950’s building Crystal am radios anymore. The cost of this service is unnecessary given today’s media options
The last one is so close to the point. Iran had Internet blackouts earlier this year, Russia has been experimenting with the same - options like shortwave are just as relevant as ever.
News article comments are funny. I think some people are just angry about politics and feel the need to vent it all the time. I actually read the NYT comments occasionally, and it's the liberal version what you posted. Some people have the amazing ability to bend any topic into a long complaint about the Trump administration.
I guess that is what happens when you don't stuff the courts with loyal judges.
Gonna take a generation to unpick and fix the Trump/DOGE bullshit ...
One hopes if it is rebuilt it's rebuilt to be "good" rather than bad/evil
I mean they're on thin ice. I have no love for the trump administration, but It's not clear where the constitution authorizes congress to fund VoA or any government propaganda arm, really. You could equally make the argument "it took three generations to unpick and fix the FDR bullshit".
Seems like this would fall under the General Welfare clause. Certainly a lot clearer than the idea that growing your own feed for your livestock means you don’t buy feed on the open market which affects prices which means your feed growing qualifies as interstate commerce despite never leaving your land and can therefore be regulated by the federal government.
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Ofc the other Imperial managers would not tolerate their biggest propaganda organ being shutdown.
My takeaway was that VoA can be shutdown, it just needs to be done so according to the law.
My read is that it's all about the dollars. The court cannot force Congress to appropriate money, and so if there is no money appropriated to run VoA then the administration has no money from Congress to run it, and cannot be forced to restore it.
It’s hilarious to call VoA, which had already faded into near irrelevancy, “their biggest propaganda organ.” That title belongs to Fox News or Hollywood.
Why does this comment get voted down? Which part are people against hearing/reading about? Is it the fact that the USA is an empire, the fact that its own journalistic efforts are propaganda, the claim that VoA is the biggest propaganda organ, or something else?
That the emperor is the one that shut it down in the first place. So some part of the statement is logically inconsistent.
It is not logically inconsistent. The "Imperial Manager"ial class mentioned in the OP is multifaceted. That is to say, there are warring factions within the ruling class who disagree on details about certain things. (other things they are fully aligned on such as stamping down on the working class)
Even if America is an empire and VoA is propaganda "Imperial Manager" doesn't seem very descriptive of what a judge does.
It’s the sort of comment that does nothing to inform or convince or really say anything. If you already agree with it the you’ll like it. If you don’t then it doesn’t tell you anything. Its only purpose is to stir things up.
It's a logically unconvincing point of view (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628) delivered with sarcasm. The sarcasm is something people have to ignore to post a substantive reply and it's not redeemed by making a strong point that's worthy of discussion.
Leaving it with only Sputnik is not exactly helping humanity either.
There’s also “Xin hua” and many others, including BBC, CBC, etc., filling the void.
That’s a very extrinsic perspective, so let’s included the other far more powerful and consequential propaganda organs; the whole media, news, TV, movie, cultural conglomeration of the American empire. If you consume “mainstream” American news, TV, movies, etc. you are being propagandized way more powerfully than anything a Sputnik, RT, AJ, DW, BBC, etc. could ever hope to achieve.
It’s not any of these rather meaningless little foreign entities that cause the major swings in “opinion” in the America that cause people to abandoned their own supposed core beliefs by getting the new firmware updates through the telescreen. I would provide a clear example, but I also don’t want to give the impression that it’s any one party or ideology, the majority of people get their firmware updates beamed into their heads through the telescreen. That is what is actually filing the void of people’s minds, not the crumbs from RT or even the slightly bigger crumbs of the BBC, it’s the approved, authorized mainstream information streams emanating from the telescreen that update people’s whatToThink; be it who to vote for or who to bomb.
> If you consume “mainstream” American news, TV, movies, etc. you are being propagandized way more powerfully than anything a Sputnik, RT, AJ, DW, BBC, etc. could ever hope to achieve.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–entertainment_complex
War films are the most overt examples but far from the only ones:
> Four decades after the release of the 1954 adult animated film Animal Farm, Cold War historian Tony Shaw discovered, through looking at archives of the film, that the CIA had secretly purchased the rights to the film. The CIA also altered the ending of the film so that the pigs, who represent communists, were overthrown by the other animals on the farm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
Said to an American news anchor (who later dismissed the speaker as a "brilliant conspiracist" for this line): "I’m sure you believe everything you say. But what I’m saying is if you believed something different you wouldn’t be sitting where you’re sitting."