How many registers does an x86-64 CPU have? (2020)

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noelwelsh - 6 hours ago

This is how many registers the ISA exposes, but not the number of registers actually in the CPU. Typical CPUs have hundreds of registers. For example, Zen 4 's integer register file has 224 registers, and the FP/vector register file has 192 registers (per Wikipedia). This is useful to know because it can effect behavior. E.g. I've seen results where doing a register allocation pass with a large number of registers, followed by a pass with the number of registers exposed in the ISA, leads to better performance.

rep_lodsb - 2 hours ago

Nitpick (footnote 3): "64-bit kernels can run 32-bit userspace processes, but 64-bit and 32-bit code can’t be mixed in the same process. ↩"

That isn't true on any operating system I'm aware of. If both modes are supported at all, there will be a ring 3 code selector defined in the GDT for each, and I don't think there would be any security benefit to hiding the "inactive" one. A program could even use the LAR instruction to search for them.

At least on Linux, the kernel is perfectly fine with being called from either mode. FASM example code (with hardcoded selector, works on my machine):

    format elf executable at $1_0000
    entry start
    
    segment readable executable
    
    start:  mov     eax,4                   ;32-bit syscall# for write
            mov     ebx,1                   ;handle
            mov     ecx,Msg1                ;pointer
            mov     edx,Msg1.len            ;length
            int     $80
    
            call    $33:demo64
    
            mov     eax,4
            mov     ebx,1
            mov     ecx,Msg3
            mov     edx,Msg3.len
            int     $80
            mov     eax,1                   ;exit
            xor     ebx,ebx                 ;status
            int     $80
    
    use64
    demo64: mov     eax,1                   ;64-bit syscall# for write
            mov     edi,1                   ;handle
            lea     rsi,[Msg2]              ;pointer
            mov     edx,Msg2.len            ;length
            syscall
            retfd                           ;return to caller in 32 bit mode

    Msg1    db      "Hello from 32-bit mode",10
    .len=$-Msg1
    
    Msg2    db      "Now in 64-bit mode",10
    .len=$-Msg2
    
    Msg3    db      "Back to 32 bits",10
    .len=$-Msg3
Someone - 5 hours ago

FTA: “For design reasons that are a complete mystery to me, the MMX registers are actually sub-registers of the x87 STn registers”

I think the main argument for doing that was that it meant that existing OSes didn’t need changes for the new CPU. Because they already saved the x87 registers on context switch, they automatically saved the MMX registers, and context switches didn’t slow down.

It also may have decreased the amount of space needed, but that difference can’t have been very large, I think

JonChesterfield - 8 hours ago

Good post! Stuff I didn't know x64 has. Sadly doesn't answer the "how many registers are behind rax" question I was hoping for, I'd love to know how many outstanding writes one can have to the various architectural registers before the renaming machinery runs out and things stall. Not really for immediate application to life, just a missing part of my mental cost model for x64.

bradley13 - 10 minutes ago

The amount of accumulated cruft in the x86 architecture is astounding.

Being a geezer, I remember when there was, for a brief moment, a genuine question whether National Semiconductor, Motorola, or Intel would win the PC market. The NS processors had a nice, clean architecture. The Motorola processors, meh, ok. Intel already had cruft from earlier efforts like the 4004, and was just ugly.

Of course, Intel won, Motorola came in second, and NS became a footnote.

The x86 architecture has only gotten uglier over time.

dang - 2 hours ago

Related. Others?

How many registers does an x86-64 CPU have? (2020) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36807394 - July 2023 (10 comments)

How many registers does an x86-64 CPU have? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25253797 - Nov 2020 (109 comments)

fuhsnn - 8 hours ago

Intel's next gen will add 16 more general purpose registers. Can't wait for the benchmarks.

jsrcout - 5 hours ago

Tried to answer this question years back for just the "basic" x86 registers. Quickly realized there was never going to be any single answer until I had mastered the entire ISA. Oh well.

diffuse_l - 5 hours ago

Some minor nitpicks, but hey, we're counting registers, it's already quite nitpicky :)

Add far as I van remember, you can't access the high/low 8 bits of si, di, sp. ip isn't accessible directly at all.

The ancestry of x86 can actually be traced back to 8 bit cpus - the high/low bits of registers are remenants of an even older arch - but I'm not sure about that from the top of my head.

I think most of the "weird" choices mentioned there boil down to limitations that seem absurd right now, but were real constraints - x87 stack can probably traced back to exposing minimal interface to the host processor - 1 register instead of 8 can save quite a few data line - although a multiplexer can probably solve this - so just a wild guess. MMX probably reused the register file of x87 to save die space.

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burnt-resistor - 6 hours ago

Conservatively though, another answer could be when not considering subset registers as distinct:

16 GP

2 state (flags + IP)

6 seg

4 TRs

11 control

32 ZMM0-31 (repurposes 8 FPU GP regs)

1 MXCSR

6 FPU state

28 important MSRs

7 bounds

6 debug

8 masks

8 CET

10 FRED

=========

145 total

And don't forget another 10-20 for the local APIC.

"The answer" depends upon the purpose and a specific set of optional extensions. Function call, task switching between processes in an OS, and emulation virtual machine process state have different requirements and expectations. YMMV.

Here's a good list for reference: https://sandpile.org/x86/initial.htm

jcalvinowens - 5 hours ago

Heh, am I the only one who was expecting an article about register renaming?

1011101001000 - 6 hours ago

x86-64 ISA general-purpose register containers: low-er 8 to 16 bits of the 64 bit GPR.

nefsim - 7 hours ago

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sylware - 8 hours ago

Don't forget x86_64 like ARM is IP-locked, RISC-V is not.