“Nothing” is the secret to structuring your work

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250 points by spmvg 4 days ago


manmal - 2 minutes ago

Clearing my tabs and IDE is also the best way to lose context and miss all kinds of things I've had queued up.

theonemind - 8 hours ago

I've found mostly the opposite. Some well arranged windows are quite a nice anchor, I'm working on what's there in front of me. It's like bowling with bumpers in place, instead of the ball going in the gutter, the structure keeps it in the lane. I've found it necessary to devote time to cleaning and clearing windows, and sometimes I forget what's going on, and as I'm closing out the windows because I forgot what was going on, oh! there's this half finished thing that I actually really want finished.

What am I working on, what's in progress? The work space is the map. The terrain is changing as the task progresses, and so must the map, but the map is useful, even if it takes a bit of redrawing here and there.

The desktops (multiple, 3-7) are the map of the work. Part of the work is keeping the map accurate, not wadding it up and throwing it in the trash.

I suppose different things work for different people, but I started with the suggestion here and came around to skillful use of space as the work map itself.

Cleaning and updating are continuous, not a 'big bang' clear-the-desks event, mostly. But if it's not continuous, the big bang is probably better.

Some spots are problem spots, like digital notebooks, desktop icons. When I notice a problem spot, I create a recurring task to remove one X per week, or in some of the worst cases, one X per day. I have a rule of clearing out the oldest two days of email each day. I miss some days if I'm busy, but on average rate out = rate in, because I will always catch up within a day or two applying the rule that the oldest two days of email need eviction (make a task out of it, archive it, whatever) every day. Rate out = rate in

Nevermark - 7 hours ago

Every day I work on my main project, I clear my desk completely, take out a small notepad and write my overriding goal, and my next step goal, and then make a list of tasks for that next step goal.

Then I work.

Writing the major goal every day is important to not let sub-goals overshadow it. Writing the immediate goal every day is important because together the two goals create a very clear direction of action with a clear next step.

I have my screen mounted on the wall, and have side end-tables for pens, papers and notes I need, etc. so my desk is absolutely clear.

My desk is a half circle, but not that deep, because that optimizes the usefulness of the surface for work (not storage).

__alexs - 22 minutes ago

For me the process which works is the "make a mess, then clean it up" approach. Also known as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Diamond_(design_process...

taeric - 8 hours ago

Alas, I think it is far more likely that there is no secret to any of this. Different strokes will arrive at the same place for a lot of people. All the more true for things that are even remotely creative in nature.

Not to say that routine and form can't get results. It is hilarious how much of the current fascination with LLM writing can be summarized by "actually filling out a routine template will satisfy a ton of requirements." People that are surprised with how well some output works, but would have scoffed at filling out a lot of boilerplate in previous technologies.

So, yes, try it. But do not become attached to it. If it works, rejoice in that. But do not count on it always working. If it stops for a time, feel free to leave it for a time.

bob1029 - an hour ago

> The next time you begin your workday, try this: clear your work surface completely.

I prefer to clean my workspace at the end of the workday and to leave a clearly defined task for myself the next morning. I can deal with a lot of friction after noon. Not so much at 6am.

gabeyaw - 14 minutes ago

Working in a university library always feels refreshing for this reason

gndp - 7 hours ago

But I will loose it all, that's why you should bookmark everything, have terminal bookmarks of paths, use git worktrees to allow leaving workspace messy. Use a lot of notion docs, .md docs, notebooks. Places where you organize stuff, so that you can come back easily when you need it again.

dirkc - an hour ago

Maybe this is why I still prefer working with a very vanilla vim setup, when I start with a coding task, I have to think for a moment about what files I need to work in and start by opening one. There is no IDE with 5 files already open. I do sometimes cheat and put a TODO comment in some files so that `git status` helps me remember where I left off previously.

Another thing that I've enjoyed a lot is a browser plugin called OneTab, when I start a new task or context switch I just hit the button and all the browser tabs are saved and closed. I then go through the list and only open up the tabs relevant to the task or I just start from scratch.

softwaredoug - 6 hours ago

When I write book chapters I write, throw away, write, throw away. Mostly with no a-priori outline

But eventually I get to a point where all the failed attempts crystallize and it flows out of me start to finish in one sitting. Every piece of knowledge from those failed attempts crystallizes into one gestalt of how it’s supposed to be.

Those final “easy” 20 pages always come after 100 pages of discarded, frustrating, exploratory work that feels like it’s going nowhere.

Also a deadline helps.

FarmerPotato - 7 hours ago

I have a system for electronics projects where a new project gets a labeled container to store extra parts, papers, spare PCBs, weird cables I might need later...

It works pretty well, especially when I want to take a project to a meetup.

Unfortunately, I also have a bin labeled "Projects".

helloplanets - 4 hours ago

The most important part is to just pay attention to how your current setup affects your mood, creativity, focus, etc. It'll be way easier to adjust once you're in tune with that.

It's really easy to end up on autopilot with the structure of your workdays, only to notice that it doesn't work for the current project all that well. Getting stuck on the 'nothing' approach can be just as bad as getting stuck on a 'hundred tabs' approach if you're just doing one or the other because you've always been doing it.

zdc1 - 5 hours ago

You can go one further and start with no desk. Think out your solution while you go for a walk.

peekyou - 3 hours ago

My digital workspace is a complete mess. Tabs keep piling up, whether in Chrome, Notepad, or other apps. I don't even know why I still have so much old stuff open, I'm thinking I might need it one day, but that day never comes...

But in contrast, my physical workspace is completely empty, I might be a bit schizophrenic.

kace91 - 6 hours ago

I’ve always have wanted a clean project area on my computer, never managed it though.

I try to keep a space for organization (slack, jira, whatever) and another for the ide, for example. Start working, and pretty soon I need to check an old pr on GitHub, and see it side to side with the ide, next someone sends a link in slack that opens a chrome window which is a doc with links that go into tabs. Hold, I have to hop in zoom for the daily… aaand we’re back at 20 windows and 15 tabs.

I wonder if it’s just the mess imposed by modern workflows. Picturing an engineer decades ago working alone and disconnected in its own office sounds like a dream, but I might just be idealizing it from today’s mindset.

ozim - an hour ago

Wonder how many people don’t even shut down their work computer.

I shut down work computer every day and every day in the morning I start it up.

Sometimes if I really have something I didn’t finish and want to start on early in the morning then I leave it running with all apps open.

mettamage - 2 hours ago

My secret was vibe coding my own jira type if system. It makes sense to no one, but it feels very intuitive to me. It has features like caching all my google docs shared with me so I can search by title. Ironically, it works better than google drive’s search.

Anyway I did this because our version of jira isn’t great, so all the features I found complicated, I put that in my system. For the rest, I use jira because with other things it’s really intuitive.

sbinnee - 3 hours ago

Every Friday, I close every app and turn off my laptop. I have been doing it as a ritual to fully enjoy my weekend. When you close your laptop lid, you leave your thoughts on the desk with it. Go meet your people.

414techie - 8 hours ago

I believe we clutter our workspaces because we suck at keeping iterations short. We always want to add one more feature, tweak one more thing, etc.

Eventually, some external pressure (boss, client, IM, whatever) causes us to open a second context simultaneously. Then it happens with a third, a fourth, etc

This is happening because the world is expecting shorter and shorter time to results due to better tooling in the last 10 years, but most have not figured out that all the LLMs and agents in the world won’t shorten the loop, only the person using them can do that.

I find that for any given problem, if I don’t see results in 30 minutes, it’s time to stop that problem and likely reshape it. If I don’t actually get the result in 90-120 minutes, I’m doing something wrong.

xivzgrev - 7 hours ago

Every morning I close all work browser tabs from prior day. 99% of them I don't need again/can just reopen if I need. The 1% I'll note on a todo list or keep open somewhere.

aeternum - 6 hours ago

Having the right context is far more effective. Context-switching cost is a major component of procrastination. At least for development work, having the right set of tabs open, the right project loaded in the IDE with the right console windows open is far better than "Nothing".

pizzafeelsright - 7 hours ago

My work day starts with "what must I accomplish today?"

Then I tackle that list.

Sometimes the list changes.

"Focus work" happens as pressure vs desire mingle.

The real question is "what is expected of me in the next four hours?" And suddenly my work is structured.

LazyMans - 5 hours ago

Someone called my method “chaotic neutral”

I try to start most days on my machine by closing almost everything I had opened the previous day.

reval - 7 hours ago

This is my focus protocol. Whenever I find myself having trouble trying started on a task, I create a new desktop and open windows related to the task only. DnD on. Pick a next step. Execute.

MrJobbo - 3 hours ago

I like it when my managers assigns the work to me and specifies the order to be completed in.

FuckButtons - 5 hours ago

“But I will lose my X" Some may object that they cannot have a clean desk because they'll lose things. They fear cleaning up…

I intensely dislike the authors smug self satisfied sense of superiority.

big-chungus4 - 2 hours ago

The website doesn't work it's just a black screen

nobodywillobsrv - 43 minutes ago

Why not just say "reboot machine when done" if that is what you mean?

It explains what it means.

HellDunkel - 3 hours ago

Microsoft Outlook and Team are about the messiest places on my desk.

koinedad - 5 hours ago

I literally just started doing this yesterday. Sometimes the tabs I have open help and sometimes they don’t. Yesterday they didn’t.

d--b - an hour ago

You know what works for me? Read these kinds of articles, and then immediately get to work just to prove the guy wrong.

I'm quite pumped.

SubiculumCode - 8 hours ago

Meh. This just sounds like all the interface theory stuff we users have to deal with, where useful things are removed in favor of a 'clean' and empty interface that makes you work harder to get your actual work done.

lloydatkinson - 7 hours ago

Why does a personal blog need a comically large cookie spam popup?

dasil003 - 7 hours ago

Um, I guess this might useful to some number of readers, but I don't think it's universal and I don't think it's a secret—more like its one of a few dozen pithy focus hacks that regularly make their way through the blogosphere and social media for those interested in "productivity".

To try my hand at reductive advice, I would say this: know your strengths and what work you do has the most value. The structure exists to serve the work and not the other way around. Habits and processes can serve the work, but can quickly become a form of procrastination for certain types of personalities. Reading about productivity on the internet will not generally make you more productive. Only through honest self-reflection can you actually improve your personal productivity and impact.

andai - an hour ago

rm -rf ~

mannanj - 6 hours ago

Yup been doing this for a while it works great, and really forces the work onto the organizational layer and search layer. Now if only I could be better at that.

jama211 - 5 hours ago

Oh look another article of “this works for me therefore it must work for everyone else”

bitwize - 9 hours ago

"Some people say a cluttered desk is the sign of a brilliant mind. Hogwash. A cluttered desk is the sign of a lazy mind." —Tim Bryce

_345 - 4 hours ago

nice blog site!

fellowniusmonk - 9 hours ago

The end of every night should start with an empty page

and then start every morning with an empty page

It's pretty simple.

As a data hoarder something like onetab is amazing, there is still a lot of room for improvement though in browser ergonomics, session resets that force you to log back in and refind your place, it's nice to see some tools like data bricks that will at least let you reauth in a new tab.

paulcole - 6 hours ago

The idea of clearing physical and digital workspaces is part of the system discussed in Work Clean:

https://workclean.com/

I’ve been using a personal variation of this system for over 4 years now and it’s outstanding for me. I firmly believe that for the vast majority of people (myself included), working without a plan is one of the dumbest things they can do.

lemfireferral - 5 hours ago

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