HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip
hp.com30 points by tonymet 5 days ago
30 points by tonymet 5 days ago
I actually love the concept. It's effectively like the iMac, except more flexible and serviceable - great for kiosks and shared workstations.
One could also couple it with AR glasses like the XREAL One and have portable computing but more immersive (although it looks a little big for that).
I don't understand the scepticism - surely it's good that we see some experimentation again on the form factor of computing, we cannot just accept that the laptop is all we'll ever get. Yeah, the copy is stupid, but that's just marketing.
> Launch Microsoft Copilot in Windows with a touch of the Copilot key,4 to write content, analyze data, and stay organized.
Oh thank goodness.
This whole product idea is further trying to gatekeep computing hardware. You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing.
> You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing.
What’s wrong with that?
I'd like to own things and have control over what I can and can't do on a computer.
Concentration of compute will be used as a vehicle for further concentration of power and wealth.
Incorrectly advertising battery capacity as 32W instead of (presumably) 32WH is a hilarious mistake for a company the size of HP
You beat me to it. 32W, but for how long? 8 hours? 11 seconds? 32W would be true in both cases.
AMD Ryzen AI 300
These are great. The Ryzen AI series are the ones that allow memory to be shared between the GPU and CPU, so you can use almost all your system RAM to run local models.
The AI 395+ MAX is available with up to 128Gb RAM (and I think 256Gb is coming).
The important thing is how much RAM it comes with because it is soldered - and for some reason this doesn't seem to show the RAM!
> the worlds most serviceable keyboard PC.
Any idea why raspberry didn’t use compute modules in the pi500? IMHO that should have been trivially upgradable but will likely be the shortest lived keyboard I’ve ever had when the pi6 comes out.
I want less microsoft/copilot in things, not more.
I don't know who this is for.
I don't understand the advantages of this over a laptop (this is essentially laptop-grade hardware and thermal profile but without the screen & battery).
It's for businesses that don't need high computation, achieving effectively the same "monitor and keyboard" effect as the iMac; and for people using AR glasses like XReal One, Viture, etc.
It has an optional battery. This could be pretty epic for a glasses interface.
So a real cyberdeck then? (Case's Ono-Sendai was a plain slab with a keyboard and interface for the "trodes" that communicated directly with your brain.)
You don't have to pay for the small laptop screen. That makes it cheaper, smaller, lighter, in theory.
What's old is new again. Hasn't anybody seen a Commodore 64?
Editorialized title (The powerful AI PC that hides in plain sight)
Actual coverage from Ars: HP's EliteBoard G1a is a Ryzen-powered Windows 11 PC in a membrane keyboard (3 points) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46551335
Given the weird take on x86 being inherently "more powerful" and the copy-pasted error from the marketing site (32W vs 32WH) this "article" looks like gently massaged advertising copy:
> Alternatively, HP’s EliteBoard will bring Windows and a more powerful x86 architecture to the keyboard-PC form factor. HP says the EliteBoard will support Windows 11 Pro for Business and an AMD Ryzen AI 300-series processor with an up to 50 TOPs NPU. The device will be sold with a 32 W internal battery and is part of Microsoft’s Copilot+ PC program.
In a few years, there will be more (relative} gold in thriftshop keyboard sludge-piles.
How does cooling get implemented? I can only really think of a Pi500 as a similar concept, except that the Pi is (likely) much less power intense. If they're using a Ryzen 300, wouldn't heat dissapation become an issue? The keyboard looks too thin for extensive heat transfer. I guess they could use a undervolted Ryzen 300 but it just seems like there is too much power delivery needs inside such a small frame.
One of the YouTubers had open it up, it uses laptop fans, it itself, is basically a squished laptop.
I’m excited though. I always liked that form factor. Add some good HUD glasses and a mouse and were sailing free!
specs are unclear, but given the size, TDP and optional battery, it almost certainly has a laptop-scale fan and heat sink. Modern fans are pretty quiet, nearly silent at idle, so it's not an issue.
and to reset it you just have to type SYS 64738
Ah, the HP-99/4A. I'd heard of this and kinda almost wanted one, but I think skyrocketing RAM and SSD prices will make it even more not worth the money/hassle.
Are the little NUC sized boxes too obtrusive? I don't understand who will buy this keyboard.
“Ok hear me out, a laptop but without the screen”