Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount.

I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent.

I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbage and nothing is really "binge worthy" like it used to be. The one thing I used to love about Netlfix was going back and watching old movies like Chinatown or To Live and Die in LA. Those are all gone now, replaced with its own produced content that I just think isn't in the same league.

If they get bought, Apple could be the only lead for quality content.

Trash ? The Diplomat has as good a production value as any.

So does Bridgerton. Adolescence is basically a single shot marvel.

Others - Stranger Things, Money Heist, Black Doves.

Not to mention their true crime documentaries.

Warner Brothers makes quality content. I think this is an almost perfect fit.

maybe things have changed but Netflix has thrown mindblowing amounts at famous people like Howard and Fincher. makes me the slightly hopeful we see another production from the twisted mind of Larry David. or at least the release of his cancelled doc

I agree so much with this. And I immediately think about how I have an ongoing Netflix subscription and I have it because after having cancelled due to the complete shit trash they produce, my dad asked me about how to see the Tyson vs Jake Paul fight and it was then that I knew I was cooked.

I am a subscriber and my dad didn't like the fight but is happy to have been part of the experience of seeing it.

I want to in-principle not pay money into this trash. But "humanity" seems to like to want to witness this trash. And I and my extended family are included!

oh dear

I like netflix content generally. I havent had issue to find something to watch. And they have a lot of good dubbing, so I use it for foreign language traing too.

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I highly recommend the website "youtube.com" there's a lot of content on there that's excellent. I am never for want of something to watch, it sort of seems like an absolute golden age of content production to me.

You're against Netflix on principle, or?

All I read here is, I bought some gift cards, binge watched a couple of decent series, and then moved on.

If someone didn't know their Star Wars, I'd run the other way too

> it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to.

Yet they've failed, I think it's a culture problem. Buy HBO and hopefully carry over the culture and skills to Netflix that way is pretty much they only hope. Netflix created a few good series, but it's also clear that they don't have the writing talent to produce the volume they want.

Netflix can produce absolutely beautify shows, but they're not well written. They also can't buy content, because a large number of the license holders have their own streaming platform. Buying HBO could get them access to the content they need, if the contracts and licensing carry over.

Deep IP catalog. DC, Game of Thrones, Harry Potter,….

Netflix paid $500M for the rights to Seinfeld for 5 years to give you an idea of what people are using Netflix for. Why make new content when you can sell old content?

Ha! I like how you don't say consumers will pay less... Just less companies asking for money.

It will be Netflix and Disney as the prominent players with Apple and Amazon representing the high end prestige TV and lowest common denominator content, respectively.

Except there's still Paramount, Disney and Hulu, and even if you get them all, there's no guarantee you can stream what you want to watch due to some bullshit regional distribution rights restrictions, which makes no sense in the digital era...

> Content Supply has vastly overshot Demand

Content has never overshot demand.

I would drown myself in content if it were good and abundant. It's not. It's lackluster and middling.

Content is scarce because it is expensive to produce. The wrong people get put in charge of projects (or tastes/reception is hard to gauge, and experiences hard to engineer). We wind up with a lot of expensive garbage.

There is a dearth of sci fi and fantasy. A few dozen titles get created, and half of it is garbage. I have money to pay to watch something every night. It just doesn't exist and isn't good.

I'd pay to watch original content. Original ideas don't get funded because it's "too risky". Which is a consequence of the big budgets, massive personnel and time investments, etc.

I see a film every other year or so where I'm not questioning the character arcs, the pacing. Where I'm fully enveloped and transfixed. That doesn't happen frequently enough. Where every note is perfect. It's rare and fleeting, and that's sad.

We're in the Precambrian times. Great content is nigh non-existent. There's a whole lot of "acceptable" and "good enough". But rarely anything sublime that steals away your brain for the rest of the day, forcing you to ruminate.

I want to live in a world where content fits my preferences like a glove and is constantly surprising and delighting me. Unlimited intellectual stimulation and adventure. I know that pinnacle can be reached eventually, just not with our current limitations. This scarcity trough.

And there will be more of it. Really of what value is HBO, if generative AI and video generation get better, and better, and better.

In 5 years, compute to AI generate video will be super cheap, both through algo being added to silicon for (C|G|T)PUs, and just general increase in compute. Every day, you'll likely see 1000s of TV series, movies, and shorts added to youtube, all with more complex, intriguing stories than the bottom 1/2 of HBO's mix. And the effects will pass or be on par.

I think this will do for movies and TV series, what the internet did to newspapers and magazines. There's really nothing left there, all the deep talent and investigation is pretty much gone.

There will probably be some real gems come out of this. Yet how will you actually find it, through all the "look at mine!" astroturfing and its kin on every site you visit?

It's not like there's really any competition anyway. Prices are going up, I can't switch from Netflix to HBO, because the content is available across platforms.

If Netflix just moves the HBO content to Netflix then that's one subscription less for a lot of people, so even if Netflix subscription goes up, many will still save money.

Only if they change the name several times only to revert back to the original

It's a symptom of a culture in crisis- how can you make popular tv shows if there isn't even a popular consensus for what reality is right now

That's like saying Ford should by Yugo. Why? They are small and insignificant and might not be around very long as they are making things people don't like.