1D Conway's Life glider found, 3.7B cells long

conwaylife.com

164 points by nooks 3 hours ago


flufluflufluffy - 2 hours ago

Me: oh cool, this is interesting, I don’t quite understand what exactly that means, let me read the thread to learn more…

The thread: > Replacing ECCA1 by version with step after the direction change could save something like 1% of the ecca1 bits size. Compiling agnosticized program instead of fixed lane program by ecca1 could save something like 1% as well (just guesses). Build of smaller ECCA1 would shorten binary portion, but it would be hardly seen in the ship size.

> Using agnosticized recipe in the fuse portion would definitely reduce its size. Better cordership seed and better salvo for gpse90 would help…

Dear lord I had no idea there’s this much jargon in the game of life community. Gonna be reading the wiki for hours

pkilgore - 2 hours ago

So it starts as a line, explodes into a huge 2D complex mess, and eventually, after many generation, returns to form the same 3.7B cells long line?

That's kind of amazing. I wish someone unpacked the units of abstraction/compilation that must surely exist here.

Surely they aren't developing this with 1 or 0 as the abstraction level!

wrs - 2 hours ago

Reading a long explanation on a GoL forum is a great way to experience what it’s like for my spouse to listen to my work conversations on Zoom. This jargon is fantastic.

7373737373 - 17 minutes ago

Two of the most fascinating open questions about the Game of Life are in my opinion:

1. What is the behavior of Conway's Game of Life when the initial position is random? Paraphrasing Boris Bukh's comment on the post linked below, the Game of Life supports self-replication and is Turing-complete, and therefore can support arbitrarily intelligent programs. So, will a random initial position (tend to) be filled with super-intelligent life forms, or will the chaos reign?

There exist uncountably infinitely many particular initial configurations out of which a random one may be drawn, which makes this more difficult (a particular infinite grid configuration can be represented as the binary digits (fractional part) of a real number, spiraling outwards from a given center coordinate cell: 0.0000... represents an empty infinite grid, 0.1111... a fully alive infinite grid).

https://mathoverflow.net/questions/132402/conways-game-of-li...

2. Relatedly, does a superstable configuration exist? One that continues to exist despite any possible external interference pattern on its border? Perhaps even an expanding one?

https://mathoverflow.net/questions/132687/is-there-any-super...

eig - 2 hours ago

Is there a visualization of the glider in the thread? Would love to see how it evolves with one dimension being time.

adzm - 2 hours ago

Notably it only fits within a 1 cell high bounding box during at least one of its phases, not all.

ekjhgkejhgk - 40 minutes ago

I love it that there are people obsessed enough to spend their time on this and our society can support it.

NooneAtAll3 - an hour ago

1D spaceship*

glider is a specific spaceship, but name for "moving pattern" is spaceship

pavel_lishin - 2 hours ago

Hah, and a forum bug further down in the thread:

> Seems there is a bug in the forum, when more people write a post at the same time the post sometimes vanishes.

bezko - 2 hours ago

“History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” – Mark Twain

Looking forward to the impending AI and crypto crash and have people run GoL simulations on expensive computer systems like it's 1972 again.

herodoturtle - 2 hours ago

Can someone please ELI5 what this means? Thanks in advance.

londons_explore - an hour ago

This seems like a great task as a test for AI.

The result is easily verify-able, yet the techniques to design such a glider are very complex and some might not have been discovered yet.

dcel - 2 hours ago

Sometimes I feel a deep sense of loss of the old web that grew up with -full of niche interests, unashamedly earnest and rich in subcultures- has been lost in a sea of corporate slop and clickbait social media.

Then occasionally I come across something like this and it feels like all is not lost. Conway's GoL was one of the first C programmes I ever wrote and I've long been distantly fascinated by cellular automata but I had no idea that there was such a depth of research (work, experimentation, collaboration? how do you even describe this kind of collective endeavour?) into GoL lurking out there all these years.

Dwedit - 18 minutes ago

RIP John Conway, a victim of Covid.

gdevillers - 2 hours ago

What are the rules in 1d ?

martianlantern - 3 hours ago

Wow this seems very interesting! Can we get a TLDR of how this was achieved?