Peeling the Covers Off Germany's Exascale "Jupiter" Supercomputer
nextplatform.com42 points by rbanffy 4 days ago
42 points by rbanffy 4 days ago
Interesting to see that the CPU tile on the GH200 is not smaller than the GPU.
Will Jupiter run... Jupyter?
I'll show myself out.
> speaks volumes about difficult it is to start from scratch to achieve chip independence for Europe
It’s tiring hearing this as if the US is any better on chip independence. Until VERY recently, both the US and Europe were limited to around 12nm domestically. Europe still has that capability, along with strong chip design companies, especially in automotive and industrial sectors. And nearly all modern US CPUs in mobile and embedded markets license Arm designs — a European (British) architecture.
Why did you omit the rest of the sentence, which (imo) provides relevant context for your quote?
Here is the relevant context I was referring to:
> […] the fact that it is not using a custom CPU and XPU created by European companies, as was originally hoped, and is basically an Nvidia machine top to middle […] speaks volumes about difficult it is to start from scratch to achieve chip independence for Europe
The article isn’t arguing semantics, and your point regarding ARM and 12nm is valid. However, the bottom line of that specific sentence you partially quoted is that they were hoping to use a custom CPU+XPU created by European companies, but ended up going with NVidia (an American company) instead.
Because none of the rest was relevant.
Here, i will isolate the specific piece:
> start from scratch
Europe isn’t “starting from scratch.” It already has 12nm-class fabs (just like the US did until very recently), designs its own chips, and developed the very architecture — ARM — that many other countries now use as the foundation for their processors.
> Europe isn’t “starting from scratch.”It already has 12nm-class fabs (just like the US did until very recently), designs its own chips, and developed the very architecture — ARM.
Sure, but the way you put it makes the final outcome look even worse for Europe.
As you said, Europe already has 12nm-class fabs, designs its own chips, and yet they still went with NVidia.
If it was a choice between truly starting from scratch vs. going with NVidia, the decision to go with NVidia would’ve been more understandable. But given the context that they aren’t truly starting from scratch, their decision to go with NVidia just seems even more embarrassing.